Dan Hill is a designer, educator, and writer. He's currently a director at Arup, a visiting professor at The Bartlett School, and Adjunct professor at RMIT. He's also the author of Dark Matter and Trojan Horses: A Strategic Design Vocabulary, and the long-running blog City of Sound. He previously worked at the Helsinki Design Lab and as director of Fabrica. In this episode, Dan and I talk about the evolution of his career, his vision for a new type of design education, and the role of writing in his work. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.